Time to Shed a Little Light
Fishermen are notorious for having a little trouble with the truth. Whether it’s adding a few pounds to the fish you caught last week or misdirecting a buddy away from your favorite spot or calling in sick on a beautiful day with a green tide, anglers can bend the truth when they need to.
Chris Scola says:May 14, 2011 at 4:01 pmIt looks to me like the key members of the conspiracy are trying to deflect attention away from the truth.The fact is that corporate interests are using fake enviromentalists to wrestle control of our nations commercial fisheries away from small mom and pop operations.CCA,EDF,PEW,and Oceana are all creating a fisheries crisis where it does not exist.Rip Cunningham is a key member of this conspiracy.If there was ever a fisherman who was liar it is Rip Cunningham and Ted Venker.Ted Venker says:May 16, 2011 at 6:51 amYes, because the only people who tell the truth are the ones who believe in the conspiracy, right?Chris Scola says:May 24, 2011 at 6:56 amI find it ironic that a person who works for the oil industry would accuse others of being less than honest.Ted Venker says:May 24, 2011 at 7:47 amFascinating. The oil industry is always at the heart of a good conspiracy theory, isn’t it? I suspect that this is going to be another one of those “facts” floated by an anonymous poster somewhere that you’re hoping will become true if you repeat it often enough. As long as we’re playing games, I would guess that you are a commercial fisherman who recently dumped several thousand striped bass over the side off the coast of North Carolina and is upset that CCA North Carolina has launched a bill to make striped bass game fish.Chris Scola says:June 2, 2011 at 8:27 amActually,I am a commercial fisherman ,but I am from Montauk New York not North Carolina.I dont support gamefish status for any fish that has value as a foodfish.Fish belong to all the citizens of this country.Gamefish status steals access to the resource from the non fishing public.These people have as much right to the fish as you and I do.And it is people like me who provide that oppurtunity.While people like yourself try to hoard the recource for recreational purposes.By the way,I am not against the Oil industry.I need access to affordable fuel to make a living.I dont agree with the presidents ban on drilling.It is costing to many vital jobs and driving up fuel prices.However,big Oil has a well earned reputation for being less than honest.As far as conspiracies are concerned even unbiased casual observers can see that some major corporations are using enviromentalists to manipulate control of some our more important fisheries into corporate hands.Do you beleive that large fishing corporations would be better stewards of the resource than smaller operations?I certainly dont.Wall Street is destroying this country.If given the oppurtunity they will destroy all of our fisheries,including vital sport fish.Think about how many of your precious striped bass a wall street owned factory boat would kill compared to a shitty old shrimp boat with a ragged out net.There are enough fish in the ocean for all user groups to utilize.There is no legitimate reason for one group to deny access to others.Ted Venker says:June 2, 2011 at 10:38 amThe one point in your post that I would not debate is that some environmentalists are attempting to manipulate management of fisheries that are of great importance to recreational anglers. I don’t think anyone would argue that the Environmental Defense Fund is using its very deep pockets to push catch share programs into every fishery it can. Is their success so far due to some wild conspiracy that ties $$$ from Pew/EDF to every other group out there involved in fisheries management? No. Their success is due to them having extraordinary resources and putting them to work. They are following the same philosophy that puts the New York Yankees into the World Series every other year. EDF doesn’t need a conspiracy any more than George Steinbrenner or Jerry Buss needed a conspiracy to build sports dynasties.The sooner people realize we are simply getting our behinds kicked by an enviro group with lots of money and a game plan, and stop trying to further their own agenda by dreaming up conspiracies to paint everyone but themselves as complicit, the more effective we would be in derailing catch share programs aimed at recreational fisheries.Chris Scola says:June 4, 2011 at 5:57 pmIf for example,the Walton foundation provides resources to EDF to further their catch share agenda,wouldn’t you agree that this comprise’s a conspiracy.By definition a conspiracy is a secret plan to do something unlawful or harmful.While catch shares are not illegal,I think CCA agrees that they are harmful.Ted Venker says:June 6, 2011 at 6:50 amI won’t debate that that is exactly how EDF is pursuing its catch share agenda.However, if the Garden State Seafood Association, for example, had tens of millions of dollars to give to commercial fishing groups so that they could influence NOAA Fisheries (which has indeed been dominated by commercial fishing agendas for decades, by the way) and drive the management system to benefit industrial fishing and get bigger allocations and use any kind of gear it wanted whenever it wanted, is that a conspiracy? I can assure you that as a recreational fisherman, I would probably find that just as harmful as the catch shares that are being pushed by the enviro groups but you wouldn’t think that was a conspiracy, would you? I wouldn’t.The enviros in question, primarily EDF, have made no secret that catch shares are what they are after. If acting in secret is part of the definition of a conspiracy, then your analysis breaks down right there.The conspiracy thing is a cop-out, pushed by groups who can’t bring themselves to admit they are just flat-out getting their asses beat. You can object to catch shares (CCA does) and you can fight against catch shares (CCA is) but to dream up conspiracies like Joe McCarthy so you don’t have to explain your own incompetence is wasted effort. Get on the field and play the game better than EDF is playing it if you want to do something about catch shares.